Discussion Can a machine recreate a human?

[クーロ]

Title. I don't know how to elaborate without sounding like a schizo. I'm basically asking if machines (androids) for example can reach a point where their actions are indistinguishable from human thought. A perfect recreation of the Human mind if you may. I say no, since machines ultimately have to be programmed and created, so whatever it is capable of is limited to what information we give it. Even if we recreate it as close as possible, there's still the twang of machinery that makes it visibly different from a human. If humanity is defined by it's consciousness than physical presence, can Artificial Intelligence perfectly recreate the Human understanding? Would that make it human or a perfect specimen above human? Would being human make it a burden? Would we, as it's creator, act as gods to these machines?

 

[Abhorrence]

idk man im not albert einstein

 

[Haruhi Suzumiya]

Title. I don't know how to elaborate without sounding like a schizo. I'm basically asking if machines (androids) for example can reach a point where their actions are indistinguishable from human thought. A perfect recreation of the Human mind if you may. I say no, since machines ultimately have to be programmed and created, so whatever it is capable of is limited to what information we give it. Even if we recreate it as close as possible, there's still the twang of machinery that makes it visibly different from a human. If humanity is defined by it's consciousness than physical presence, can Artificial Intelligence perfectly recreate the Human understanding? Would that make it human or a perfect specimen above human? Would being human make it a burden? Would we, as it's creator, act as gods to these machines?

Nope, AI and machines operate on commands, and searching internet databases, they got no will of their own and no goals.

 

[クーロ]

Nope, AI and machines operate on commands, and searching internet databases, they got no will of their own and no goals.

Agreed
I guess what makes us human is being shackled by desire. I don't think a machine can develop the same desires in a way that doesn't feel as artificial

 

[c-barreda]

OvER for machinecels

 

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According to Ray Kurzweil around 2029.
However AI advancements have outpaced even the most optimistic predictions, so probably later this year or next year.
Newer LLMS keep pushing the boundaries when it comes to parameter count and ability, with more refined training data, higher parameter count and increases in AI chip efficiency like in groQ or blackwell. More parameters = the ability to form more abstract connections and 'see' more complex patterns. Huge investment is going into AI right now with Microsoft planning to build $100bn StarGate datacenters by 2030 which will be used to power a super-intelligence, apparently.

 

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According to Ray Kurzweil around 2029.
However AI advancements have outpaced even the most optimistic predictions, so probably later this year or next year.
Newer LLMS keep pushing the boundaries when it comes to parameter count and ability, with more refined training data, higher parameter count and increases in AI chip efficiency like in groQ or blackwell. More parameters = the ability to form more abstract connections and 'see' more complex patterns. Huge investment is going into AI right now with Microsoft planning to build $100bn StarGate datacenters by 2030 which will be used to power a super-intelligence, apparently.

Somehow that feels too far. Some argue we already reached the point of General Intelligence and progress is going really fast. I might be too optimistic but it does look bright

 

[Lain]

I believe they will in the not so distant future. Right now, currently, of course that's not the case. As human beings, we're deterministic. Our desires, our thoughts, our feelings, we're biological machines. When you feel hungry, you get an increase in ghrelin. You are led by this deterministic pathway to get food. If you don't get food, you die, your programming was corrupt. Once the brain is fully understood and every pathway and the respective action is known, an artificial neural network can be put into place that'll have the same responses to the same stimuli on the same level that you do. It's incredibly complex, you could program genetic algorithms into the AI, causing it to be so human like that it has epigenetic changes from the way it lives its life just like humans do. The current state of AI is not like that, it's like this:

Nope, AI and machines operate on commands, and searching internet databases, they got no will of their own and no goals.

But that is only for now. If it's possible technologically, it will happen eventually, provided humanity doesn't kill itself.

 

[FemoidsGTFO]

Yes, our thoughts are also just a chain of chemical reactions that could theoretically be artificially replicated.