Media Dying Out of Sight: Hikikomori in an Aging Japan

[Aedra]

This is a documentary about neets in Japan, it is reported that they are literally dying alone, from old age, as their parents die off and they have no one to support them, in the vast majority of cases the hikikomoris in question refused the help they were being offered. Over half of hikikomoris in Japan are also estimated to be over 40 years of age.

A certain neet in the video, who had passed away recently during the time of the recording, relates in one of his writings :

"Is there nothing more to being alive? We just work, and work, and work. Even to the point of destroying our healths, until our heads are totally used up."

This is quite the contrast to, at least the current state of western societies, where millions of young people are suffering from the same thing, the question is, will "we" share the same future as these people, and why do you think this is happening in the first place?

 

[AI-cel]

even rural village is beatiful in japan

 

[Mikioni]

even rural village is beatiful in japan

Agreed.

 

[NeverEndingWinter]

even rural village is beatiful in japan

Agreed.

 

[Aedra]

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This is exactly how I view people who have an obsession with Japan.

Seriously, it's not like in the animes, it's an oppressive society with millions of depressed people and an unusually high suicide rate. You don't want to live in Japan.

 

[Fabio]

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[Based Vampire]

Thank you for sharing this wonderful documentary.

It does indeed seem that the primary causes for their isolation are feelings of guilt, shame, etc. Yet isolating yourself from society takes a strong determination, as I see it. One thing for sure: a decision to end one's life means that the amount of emotional or physical suffering surpasses the fear of death.

I don't know how widespread hikikomori phenomenon is in the West. But I am sure that in the end some of us here will meet a similar end (in some other form, perhaps), should we choose to remain on the NEET path for the rest of our lives.

Personally, I see this life and everything in it as ultimately meaningless. It's not worth living. And perhaps I would prefer to not have been born at all. Given that, I can't help but think of people who desperately try to prevent others from ending their life as utter fools. I don't feel the need to achieve anything, especially if it takes a great amount of pain and suffering. I prefer to just chill. I hope I am brave enough to face my fate with dignity and do the right thing when the time comes.

 

[Aedra]

Thank you for sharing this wonderful documentary.

It does indeed seem that the primary causes for their isolation are feelings of guilt, shame, etc. Yet isolating yourself from society takes a strong determination, as I see it. One thing for sure: a decision to end one's life means that the amount of emotional or physical suffering surpasses the fear of death.

I don't know how widespread hikikomori phenomenon is in the West. But I am sure that in the end some of us here will meet a similar end (in some other form, perphaps), should we choose to remain on the NEET path for the rest of our lives.

Personally, I see this life and everything in it as ultimately meaningless. It's not worth living. And perphaps I would prefer not to be borned at all. Given that, I can't help but think of people who desperately try to prevent others from ending their life as utter fools. I don't feel the need to achieve anything, especially if it takes a great amount of pain and suffering. I prefer to just chill. I hope I am brave enough to face my fate with dignity and do the right thing when the time comes.

I think the biggest problem is lacking a drive, that is, lacking a goal to work towards. Something to have belief in. It is no coincidence that rise of things like anti-natalism, atheism and hedonism correlate heavily with such a depressing period, every world view creates a society of its own image.

 

[Based Vampire]

I think the biggest problem is lacking a drive, that is, lacking a goal to work towards. Something to have belief in. It is no coincidence that rise of things like anti-natalism, atheism and hedonism correlate heavily with such a depressing period, every world view creates a society of its own image.

that's right. For that reason I would strongly oppose the spread of these worldviews. It could collapse the society. I don't give a rat's ass, of course, but I care about personal well-being and I think that the collapse of soceity would greatly hinder it.

That being said, I have embraced nihilism and philosophical pessimism. Now I don't have neither motivation nor strength to achieve anything. And, frankly, I don't care.

 

[Aedra]

that's right. For that reason I would strongly oppose the spread of these worldviews. It could collapse the society. I don't give a rat's ass, of course, but I care about personal well-being and I think that the collapse of soceity would greatly hinder it.

That being said, I have embraced nihilism and philosophical pessimism. Now I don't have neither motivation nor strength to achieve anything. And, frankly, I don't care.

I try not to fall into things like nihilism, but I can't blame anyone for thinking in such ways, the modern world pretty much corrupts your soul to its very core.

 

[Based Vampire]

I try not to fall into things like nihilism, but I can't blame anyone for thinking in such ways, the modern world pretty much corrupts your soul to its very core.

Modern world has nothing to do with it. It's about the fundamental nature of reality. Schopenhauer wrote similar things 200 years ago. Buddhism which has existed for millennia has some ideas that could be considering as a foundation for more modern pessimism/nihilism (the idea of suffering and the need to escape it, for example).

 

[AI-cel]

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now try latvia beer so you can compare it to japanese ones

 

[Aedra]

Modern world has nothing to do with it. It's about the fundamental nature of reality. Schopenhauer wrote similar things 200 years ago. Buddhism which has existed for millennia has some ideas that could be considering as a foundation for more modern pessimism/nihilism (the idea of suffering and the need to escape it, for example).

Christianity pretty much follows the same pattern as Buddhism and Schopenhauer on this, in the book of Ecclesiastes for example, Solomon declares that life is full of vanities and is meaningless and that there is ''nothing new under the sun''. He goes as far as declaring that the dead are better off than the living, and that those who were never born are even luckier than both, however, he ends his writings by declaring that one must endure this existence and keep God's commandments, for there will be salvation in the end.

Unlike those two philosophical systems, Christian theology simply pulls a save move by putting that ''but you will be saved in the end'' of course whether you believe that to be true is up to you, I personally believe in it, and I think it is ultimately a healthier approach to this than Buddhism, because you don't want a society full of depressive people.

 

[Based Vampire]

Christianity pretty much follows the same pattern as Buddhism and Schopenhauer on this, in the book of Ecclesiastes for example, Solomon declares that life is full of vanities and is meaningless and that there is ''nothing new under the sun''. He goes as far as declaring that the dead are better off than the living, and that those who were never born are even luckier than both, however, he ends his writings by declaring that one must endure this existence and keep God's commandments, for there will be salvation in the end.

Unlike those two philosophical systems, Christian theology simply pulls a save move by putting that ''but you will be saved in the end'' of course whether you believe that to be true is up to you, I personally believe in it, and I think it is ultimately a healthier approach to this than Buddhism, because you don't want a society full of depressive people.

Good points about the wisdom of the Bible. And as a former christian I probably couldn't agree more about the rest. Even though I've come to believe that Christianity does not hold up to critical scrutiny, I think I would strongly oppose the efforts of 'militant atheists' to spread their worldview. I think the West needs Christianity to keep the birth rates up and to maintain social stability any religion provides. I don't see any viable alternatives to Christianity as of now.

 

[WeebHunter3000]

Are you @Aedra?

 

[Aedra]

Are you @Aedra?

Yes.

 

[WeebHunter3000]

Yes.

Why were you banned for so long?

 

[Aedra]

Why were you banned for so long?

It was a requested ban, I left because I wanted to. And I forgot the password to that account.

 

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