Discussion Dystopia

Lain

Lain

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Jul 19, 2021
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Do you think the current world is a type of dystopia sliding further into dystopia? It's been on my mind a lot these days, there's social isolation and disconnect from others, yet we're still always connected. Lain was a great example of this, she's connected to all her peers virtually, but she's disconnected IRL and doesn't seem the same. In each virtual space, she has a unique personality cultivated, something that seems a little... off. Can't we all relate to that? I try to have a coherent and consistent personality, the way I do that is limiting the virtual spaces I go to, but that becomes something of an echo chamber off my own ideas. Our reality has turned out a lot like Brave New World. Everyone is consuming, consuming, consuming, nearly devoid of thoughts, we've been conditioned by media to act in a specific way, for us NEETs, it's a different type of conditioning, but still conditioning nevertheless. Would I have been a NEET if I never browsed r9k? If I never browsed the internet? If I wasn't terminally connected to a screen?

Maybe I've been conditioned to believe free will is an illusion, although I can't help but feel as if it's all a sham. A mirage. People can condition others precisely because they will act in deterministic ways due to symbols, due to ideas, due to word patterns, how can propagandists convince the masses to go and die in a war against a people they've never met? But it's done. They're villainized and words such as 'regime' and 'axis of evil' and 'pedophiles' and 'gas chambers' and 'subhumans' and 'deviants' and 'thieves' and whatever terms you can come up with. They're driven into your skull until you're ready to march into the sands. Go look at WW2 propaganda, there is no just side, every side was fucked. But it worked, and the winner won, and they're right for that virtue and only for that.

I had this intense feeling while under the influence of ketamine the other day, something I tend to have while under potent psychedelics or dissociatives, that I'm a manifestation of something akin to the Godhead. All of my cells in their sum generate reality and all of my possible life choices are in relation to my physical and psychological state which come from that culmination. Think about it: if you're high testosterone, for example, you're able to seek more mates, you're able to be more thrill seeking. Or think about this, if you're naturally high in dopamine/serotonin/etc, your total possible life choices are opened up, but if you're in a low state of dysphoria and low T and so on caused by nonstop low level short term attention grabbing content, being sedentary, being weak your life choices are limited heavily, because your biology will not even generate the thoughts needed to do a different state of action, right?

Life is very strange though, in the feeling that there's a strong 'otherness' outside of my cells, despite the fact that my cells should be what generate reality for me, that can influence my total behavior patterns. A person could lower my basal dopamine levels, my serotonin levels, throw microplastics in my balls, and my life choices become limited as a result of that. With the fields of propaganda, neuromarketing and other fields advancing because of technology, I don't think it's looking so good for us. I'm rambling, I had another dystopian dream last night.
 
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So, you are Lain, This video is for you, Lain. Accelerationists are here to clarify things.

 
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With the fields of propaganda, neuromarketing and other fields advancing because of technology, I don't think it's looking so good for us.
Political propaganda isn't nearly as effective these days as it was in the early 1900s. Marketing is less evil too. We actually have consumer protection now. Mega corporations can't just lie to people and claim that using asbestos or smoking cigarettes is good.

We haven't had two consecutive world wars or the mafia terrorizing cities in the same way. We don't see many men without limbs or war-damaged faces begging for money in the streets. We haven't had a famine or a Dust Bowl. COVID-19 and the 2008 financial crisis are nothing compared to the Spanish flu, polio, or the stock market crash of 1929.

I don't think that anyone who lived through the crises of the early 20th century would say things are worse now. I believe it's the spoiled zoomers who have never had to live through real adversity who think the world is collapsing because some YouTuber is openly gay or someone on Twitter prefers the pronouns they/them.

It's not that the world has gotten tougher. It's that people have become much softer and cry about the most trivial things online because they don't have anything better or more important to do.

Shocked Vince Mcmahon GIF by WWE
 
Lain

Lain

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Jul 19, 2021
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Political propaganda isn't nearly as effective these days as it was in the early 1900s. Marketing is less evil too. We actually have consumer protection now. Mega corporations can't just lie to people and claim that using asbestos or smoking cigarettes is good.
You think the field of propaganda halted after WW2? Or do you think it evolved? There's peace and war time propaganda, the peace time propaganda is 10x more effective now than it ever was. There's a meme that I've heard Chinese use, it goes like this:

American: Don't you know your country is full of propaganda!!! How can you stand it?
Chinese: Yes, it's terrible, I hate it. What about yours?
American: What propaganda?

When you look at stories like Brave New World, the characters are given near unlimited pleasure. They live in a consumerist paradise. This wasn't something that he wrote without thinking about it, it was planned based off future events that the elites were talking about that he got keyed into. But if you notice in that book and other similar books that explore the theme and concept, you don't need pain to be in a dystopia. If you're jacked into the matrix 24/7, with human connections rapidly deteriorating, with people rehashing the exact same concepts they were given by an algorithm (TikTok, Facebook, whatever), but think this is "fine" when for example 1 in 6 adults in the USA are jacked up on SSRIs so they don't blow their brains out. That number always gets me thinking we're in our own kind of dystopia.

Would people pre industrial revolution agree with our future? If you told them "Yeah, actually, a large portion of the population is perpetually chemically sedated and the number only grows each year, if they don't do that, life is so unbearable they can't handle it and will kill themselves. But it's a paradise for sure!" :feelsstudy:
 
epidermis

epidermis

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Jul 22, 2024
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Thanks for the enlightening response my #1 hater Fries, forgot to ignore your new account
Yeah, sadly, your secondary school tier essay falls on its face when evoking the words "Tocqueville effect" and "Drug-fueled musings perceived as more profound than they actually are."
 
The Doctor

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Political propaganda isn't nearly as effective these days as it was in the early 1900s. Marketing is less evil too. We actually have consumer protection now. Mega corporations can't just lie to people and claim that using asbestos or smoking cigarettes is good.

We haven't had two consecutive world wars or the mafia terrorizing cities in the same way. We don't see many men without limbs or war-damaged faces begging for money in the streets. We haven't had a famine or a Dust Bowl. COVID-19 and the 2008 financial crisis are nothing compared to the Spanish flu, polio, or the stock market crash of 1929.

I don't think that anyone who lived through the crises of the early 20th century would say things are worse now. I believe it's the spoiled zoomers who have never had to live through real adversity who think the world is collapsing because some YouTuber is openly gay or someone on Twitter prefers the pronouns they/them.

It's not that the world has gotten tougher. It's that people have become much softer and cry about the most trivial things online because they don't have anything better or more important to do.

Shocked Vince Mcmahon GIF by WWE
I disagree but there’s some truth to what you’re saying . Ultimately we live in a completely different ā€œ consciousnessā€ to those of the Great Depression. Sure , being richer means a cozier life but that’s not exactly insightful. You also seem a very hardcore materialist , having a family / culture / sense of ownership etc. are undervalued . This is why Marxism fails, it is positivist and thus cannot really capture Being as a whole.
 
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DrainerSemetary

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Maybe I've been conditioned to believe free will is an illusion, although I can't help but feel as if it's all a sham. A mirage. People can condition others precisely because they will act in deterministic ways due to symbols, due to ideas, due to word patterns, how can propagandists convince the masses to go and die in a war against a people they've never met? But it's done. They're villainized and words such as 'regime' and 'axis of evil' and 'pedophiles' and 'gas chambers' and 'subhumans' and 'deviants' and 'thieves' and whatever terms you can come up with. They're driven into your skull until you're ready to march into the sands. Go look at WW2 propaganda, there is no just side, every side was fucked. But it worked, and the winner won, and they're right for that virtue and only for that.
reject all illusions for they hinder the strong
 
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garden layer : garden of eden in the bible, all potential people exist here already in the form of dug-out square chambers hosting a trellis (trellis cubes); the only physical features are: the tree of life, & the .ini sun; trellis cubes that receive full light from the .ini sun grow yellow flowers that signal growth of insect organs on the trellis; trellis cubes that receive partial/full disconnection from the foliage of tree of life grow blue flowers that signal the growth of arachnid organs on the trellis (the blue is not a "real" color -- but it is yellow that appears blue in shade). when a trellis receives rain: that person is activated in the illusory-material layer (& in turn: awakens in the torture chamber sublayer); when a trellis dries: that person dies; life/death on illusory-material will always correspond with an impregnated information dispatterning to cause the event to make sense in the narrative of illusion, but the actual event is reliant on stasis from garden.

sun.ini : a programming concept from the geometry layer that exists as a body of angel light on garden layer (& is formed from the mass of angels in air) that holds all of the illusory-material server information, which is transmitted (through light & music) to the trellises.

dispatterning : refers to a deconstruction of the continuous sun.ini information lattice to create nyarlathotep in the pattern (nyarlathotep referring to geometry deletion, referring to ā€œunrealsā€ or ā€œabsencesā€): a meaning will be destroyed & crawling chaos enters — torture chamber (as an entity) primarily uses dispatterning to engage inhabitants in hope/fear cycles (the patterns are read preemptively through ā€œfunny gamesā€ which manifest on illusory-material layer as mindreading.
 
ThePisspot

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There's so much wrong with what you said. On the plus side, you'd get decent views getting a woman or gay to narrate this mindless ramble.


Nice plug lmao
 
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You like to live like an ant, in an ant farm, by an ant keeper
 
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