Venting Fuck atheism

[Massimo]

I'm tired of hearing them say that religion and it's practices and rituals do harm while it doesn't to me so go fuck yourself Infact religion helps me get through the day sometimes.

 

[based liberal guy]

I'm tired of hearing them say that religion and it's practices and rituals do harm while it doesn't to me so go fuck yourself Infact religion helps me get through the day sometimes.

I don't have problem with religion but I hate it's aspect of controlling poor people and expansionist and proselytizing

 

[UglyBastard]

I don't have problem with religion but I hate it's aspect of controlling poor people and expansionist and proselytizing

It's not as if people are forced to follow religion, specially today. It's natural for human beings to seek spiritual enlightenment, and that's where priests come in to help people who seek to elevate themselves spiritually.
The issue of proselytism is a bit more complex; it's part of the concept of Christian charity. Think about it, if you genuinely believed that there is a heaven and hell, and that people are saved through baptism and accepting Jesus Christ as their savior, wouldn't you also want the people you love to be saved with you? So that's what Christian charity is all about. You also want the people you love to be saved and to enjoy an eternal life of glory with God in paradise. Yes, there are religious leaders who don't care about salvation, but rather about increasing their political power or even making more money with more followers, but that's not what Christianity is about. In fact, no traditional religion is based on cheap materialism like politics, money, etc. Any traditional religion is based on reconnecting human beings with the divine, hence the origin of the word religion (from the Latin: religare - something like "re-link").

You may be fed up with certain people who turn religion into actual business, but that is not the core of a traditional religion. To see this, just look at the traditional source of religions. In the case of Catholicism, the catechism. In the case of Hindus, the Upanishads. In the case of Islam, the Koran.

 

[Med Amine]

Im not beleiving that the moon split in half for almost an hour and only a bunch of dessert weirdos saw it while the entire world slept
Or that theres billiobs of magog and gog children behind a wall ready to kill all of us at any moment

 

[Med Amine]

It's not as if people are forced to follow religion, specially today

It kinda is
In islamic shitholes if you dont pray or go to mosque you will get in trouble and be followed by extremists.
Thzy will harrass you and put pressure on u

 

[UglyBastard]

It kinda is
In islamic shitholes if you dont pray or go to mosque you will get in trouble and be followed by extremists.
Thzy will harrass you and put pressure on u

Habibi, you need to understand that Islam is not a religion like Christianity. Islam is part of the social life of Arabs. I mean, most Islamic countries don't even have a constitution, since they use the Quran as their source of civil and criminal laws. So tell me, what is the difference between a country that makes a constitution (like Switzerland, for example), where the citizen is obliged to act according to what is written in a law book, and an Arab country that uses the Quran as its law? Both are legalistic, they are just applying the current law of the country. So, for those who don't agree with the laws, there is always the option of leaving the country, along with their family.

I genuinely don't understand why people feel so uncomfortable with the fact that Arab countries use the Quran as their law, at the end of the day it makes no difference to a constitutionalist country: both use a law book to enforce social rules. The difference is that one is based on positivism while the other is based on tradition.

August Comte, in his wildest dreams, dreamed of a civil religion, where people would participate in ceremonial rituals, follow a positive law, etc. Ultimately, even a secular state is a religious state, only the source of laws changes, as I said before: one is positivist and the other is traditionalist.

Are you going to say that, because you live in Switzerland, citizens are not also obliged to follow the state religion (aka Positivism)?
Do you understand how religion and state are two extremely interconnected things? There can be no state without religion, even if it is a positivist religion.

I strongly recommend studying Comte's positivism, which is the basis for practically all liberal democracies today. In the end, you will realize that Positivism, at its core, is also a religion.

 

[Med Amine]

genuinely don't understand why people feel so uncomfortable with the fact that Arab countries use the Quran as their law, at the end of the day it makes no difference to a constitutionalist country: both use a law book to enforce social rules. The difference is that one is based on positivism while the other is based on tradition

Sandniggers wont use all the book
Atleast if they follow quran word by word then we could have some sex slaves to be sold to people.
Whats the benefit of a constitution if u just follow what u like and ban what u dont like

strongly recommend studying Comte's positivism, which is the basis for practically all liberal democracies today. In the end, you will realize that Positivism, at its core, is also a religion.

Sandnigs want u to believe their book
Itd not just following it
U can live in swiss and say that u hate the constitution but to have to respect it and follow it
In arab shitholes u have to believe or be attacked by shitskin subhumans

 

[UglyBastard]

U can live in swiss and say that u hate the constitution but to have to respect it and follow it
In arab shitholes u have to believe or be attacked by shitskin subhumans

Not so different from Europe then. You can be arrested if you're openly against the (((democratic institutions))).
Behaving according to the law is not enough, you have to openly agree with all the bullshit bureaucrats write in toilet paper, otherwise it's jail for you...