I realized how little control we have over their lives.

xinino

xinino

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Jul 3, 2024
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It seems that you need to sacrifice some control and accept that your fate is in the hands of organizations "along with the probabilities or luck of success or failure" in order to live in society, and with more complexity in the system, the less control we have. "There's simply too many nodes to reach the end goal." My brain is different, he can't handle it. I want maximum control over my environment without any human interference. People who live in the underworld have the most control over their lives, there's nothing that can hold them back from doing almost anything. It always baffled me how Susan Atkins and her friends smiled and joked despite the fact that they faced real charges, The sense of control they had during their trial was a transitional part of their previous underworld environment, Although it was fake, it was comforting and satisfying for them. That reminds me of the concept of the power process and the role of autonomy in Ted Kaczynski's philosophy.

42. Autonomy as a part of the power process may not be necessary for every individual. But most people need a greater or lesser degree of autonomy in working toward their goals. Their efforts must be undertaken on their own initiative and must be under their own direction and control. Yet most people do not have to exert this initiative, direction and control as single individuals. It is usually enough to act as a member of a SMALL group.Thus if half a dozen people discuss a goal among themselves and make a successful joint effort to attain that goal, their need for the power process will be served. But
if they work under rigid orders handed down from above that leave them no room for autonomous decision and initiative, then their need for the power process will not be served. The same is true when decisions are made on a collective basis if the group making the collective decision is so large that the role of each individual is insignificant.

43. It is true that some individuals seem to have little need for autonomy. Either their drive for power is weak or they satisfy it by identifying themselves with some powerful organization to which they belong. And then there are unthinking, animal types who seem to be satisfied with a purely physical sense of power (the good combat soldier,who gets his sense of power by developing fighting skills that he is quite content to use in blind obedience to his superiors).

44. But for most people it is through the power process having a goal, making an AUTONOMOUS effort and attaining the goal — that self-esteem, self-confidence and a sense of power are acquired. When one does not have adequate opportunity to go through the power process the consequences are (depending on the individual and on the way the power process is disrupted) boredom, demoralization, low self-esteem, inferiority feelings, defeatism, depression, anxiety, guilt, frustration, hostility, spouse or child abuse, insatiable hedonism, abnormal sexual behavior, sleep disorders, eating disorders. etc.

I had to post this now because

1. It stuck in my mind.
2. I don't want to post it next time I login because I want to drink.
 
rand anon

rand anon

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Jun 13, 2023
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Haven’t read the whole post yet ngl but I agree upon skimming it
 
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Aug 25, 2024
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It seems that you need to sacrifice some control and accept that your fate is in the hands of organizations "along with the probabilities or luck of success or failure" in order to live in society, and with more complexity in the system, the less control we have. "There's simply too many nodes to reach the end goal." My brain is different, he can't handle it. I want maximum control over my environment without any human interference. People who live in the underworld have the most control over their lives, there's nothing that can hold them back from doing almost anything. It always baffled me how Susan Atkins and her friends smiled and joked despite the fact that they faced real charges, The sense of control they had during their trial was a transitional part of their previous underworld environment, Although it was fake, it was comforting and satisfying for them. That reminds me of the concept of the power process and the role of autonomy in Ted Kaczynski's philosophy.

42. Autonomy as a part of the power process may not be necessary for every individual. But most people need a greater or lesser degree of autonomy in working toward their goals. Their efforts must be undertaken on their own initiative and must be under their own direction and control. Yet most people do not have to exert this initiative, direction and control as single individuals. It is usually enough to act as a member of a SMALL group.Thus if half a dozen people discuss a goal among themselves and make a successful joint effort to attain that goal, their need for the power process will be served. But
if they work under rigid orders handed down from above that leave them no room for autonomous decision and initiative, then their need for the power process will not be served. The same is true when decisions are made on a collective basis if the group making the collective decision is so large that the role of each individual is insignificant.

43. It is true that some individuals seem to have little need for autonomy. Either their drive for power is weak or they satisfy it by identifying themselves with some powerful organization to which they belong. And then there are unthinking, animal types who seem to be satisfied with a purely physical sense of power (the good combat soldier,who gets his sense of power by developing fighting skills that he is quite content to use in blind obedience to his superiors).

44. But for most people it is through the power process having a goal, making an AUTONOMOUS effort and attaining the goal — that self-esteem, self-confidence and a sense of power are acquired. When one does not have adequate opportunity to go through the power process the consequences are (depending on the individual and on the way the power process is disrupted) boredom, demoralization, low self-esteem, inferiority feelings, defeatism, depression, anxiety, guilt, frustration, hostility, spouse or child abuse, insatiable hedonism, abnormal sexual behavior, sleep disorders, eating disorders. etc.

I had to post this now because

1. It stuck in my mind.
2. I don't want to post it next time I login because I want to drink.
Agreed with everything in this post.
 
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