Depression Infatuation without reciprocation leads to tremendous suffering. Silent love is depressing.

Based Vampire

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When you like a girl as a low value sub-5 male and you see her literally fading away into the arms of chads and even normies. And there's nothing you can do. Nothing you can really offer her. You have nothing that would allow you to truly outcompete normies and chads as a low value man. No good looks, no confidence, no status. Only the strong survive. It's over. And it's brutal my friends.

Sometimes I feel like I can't take this anymore. Infatuation as a form of attachment leads to suffering if there is no reciprocation. Can hardly cope with this emotional anguish.

When it comes to a relationship... Just as much if not more stress, anxiety, worry and fighting. (most of the time)

Maybe I need to maxx out my celibacy to such an extent that I abstain from any sexual thoughts all together as best as possible as @Broken&Ruined advised me. Focus on other pursuits in life. But at the same time I may want to persevere for the sake of a faint burning hope of landing myself a GF. May be my last chance. This chance is very slim, so it's hard to see the point. I don't know what to do anymore. I'm exhausted my friends.
 
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Better to try and fail so at least you can say you tried earnestly than to live and say you never tried all you could and live with that regret
I think so too. Meanwhile I have to find the middle ground between detachment and striving. I have to take my passions under control somehow.
 
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I think so too. Meanwhile I have to find the middle ground between detachment and striving. I have to take my passions under control somehow.
I like this lecture by Watts on love and romance. My current take on relationships is to try as hard as one generally can and if it fails, try to learn something from it and go again, without remorse, feeling satisfaction in at least you tried as best as you could. I used to regret a lot when I was younger not going after girls because of anxiety, because of fear of rejection, fear they might not like me back, and I've went after and I've been rejected by women. But that feeling is infinitely and without a doubt favorable to nothing. It's much better to be in the mix of it all my friend than standing on the sidelines.
 
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I like this lecture by Watts on love and romance. My current take on relationships is to try as hard as one generally can and if it fails, try to learn something from it and go again, without remorse, feeling satisfaction in at least you tried as best as you could. I used to regret a lot when I was younger not going after girls because of anxiety, because of fear of rejection, fear they might not like me back, and I've went after and I've been rejected by women. But that feeling is infinitely and without a doubt favorable to nothing. It's much better to be in the mix of it all my friend than standing on the sidelines.

I'm more sympathetic to this kind of take these days. Years of love-shyness and, as a result, loneliness, sexual frustration and social-romantic incompetence have taken a toll on me. Made me unhinged as you can see from the op. I'll keep trying to better my emotional control, as well as taking small steps toward my goal of entering a relationship. Can't live in denial anymore and claim I don't need it. I need to at least try it once even if it leads to more problems. Point is, I will be in a better position to judge my next steps

The thing is, I try to approach the topic rationally, but I have my doubts that stem from my negative experience. I acknowledge this, but still it's not easy to move forward.
 
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I'm more sympathetic to this kind of take these days. Years of love-shyness and, as a result, loneliness, sexual frustration and social-romantic incompetence have taken a toll on me. Made me unhinged as you can see from the op. I'll keep trying to better my emotional control, as well as taking small steps toward my goal of entering a relationship. Can't live in denial anymore and claim I don't need it. I need to at least try it once even if it leads to more problems. Point is, I will be in a better position to judge my next steps

The thing is, I try to approach the topic rationally, but I have my doubts that stem from my negative experience. I acknowledge this, but still it's not easy to move forward.
It's natural to have doubts, I think eventually you reach a point where the alternative is too painful so you go ahead, doubts and all, regardless. That's been my experience.
 
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It's natural to have doubts, I think eventually you reach a point where the alternative is too painful so you go ahead, doubts and all, regardless. That's been my experience.
I think I already have! It's time have some faith and start persevering, making consistent choices. I need to get my act together ASAP.
 
xinino

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When you like a girl as a low value sub-5 male and you see her literally fading away into the arms of chads and even normies. And there's nothing you can do. Nothing you can really offer her. You have nothing that would allow you to truly outcompete normies and chads as a low value man. No good looks, no confidence, no status. Only the strong survive. It's over. And it's brutal my friends.

Sometimes I feel like I can't take this anymore. Infatuation as a form of attachment leads to suffering if there is no reciprocation. Can hardly cope with this emotional anguish.

When it comes to a relationship... Just as much if not more stress, anxiety, worry and fighting. (most of the time)

Maybe I need to maxx out my celibacy to such an extent that I abstain from any sexual thoughts all together as best as possible as @Broken&Ruined advised me. Focus on other pursuits in life. But at the same time I may want to persevere for the sake of a faint burning hope of landing myself a GF. May be my last chance. This chance is very slim, so it's hard to see the point. I don't know what to do anymore. I'm exhausted my friends.
No it doesn't, it feels good. Why do you think religious normies aren't depressed? Because they believe in unconditional love from god. In sacred, unrealistic thing, it's more about existential crisis than sexual success, that's why people say that pussy is their meaning in life.

They are in constant endeavor, never reaching there. The brain will still be stuck in first high stages of romantic attraction, we aren't talking about sexual success here, but the fear of missing out in life which is fake desire, you are literally encourage men hypergamy for capitalist utilitarian favor, instead we should opt out from anything conventional In our society, just Xed yourself and be happy.
 
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xinino

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When you like a girl as a low value sub-5 male and you see her literally fading away into the arms of chads and even normies. And there's nothing you can do. Nothing you can really offer her. You have nothing that would allow you to truly outcompete normies and chads as a low value man. No good looks, no confidence, no status. Only the strong survive. It's over. And it's brutal my friends.

Sometimes I feel like I can't take this anymore. Infatuation as a form of attachment leads to suffering if there is no reciprocation. Can hardly cope with this emotional anguish.

When it comes to a relationship... Just as much if not more stress, anxiety, worry and fighting. (most of the time)

Maybe I need to maxx out my celibacy to such an extent that I abstain from any sexual thoughts all together as best as possible as @Broken&Ruined advised me. Focus on other pursuits in life. But at the same time I may want to persevere for the sake of a faint burning hope of landing myself a GF. May be my last chance. This chance is very slim, so it's hard to see the point. I don't know what to do anymore. I'm exhausted my friends.
Bro doesn't know the pleasure of sacred, unproductivity and excess destruction

Georges Bataille vers 1943
 
xinino

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Only the strong survive. It's over. And it's brutal my friends.
IQ shredder says the opposite. People with high IQ are the most vulnerable, I think we should forsake humanism beliefs. Anti humanism is the way to go.
 
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When you like a girl as a low value sub-5 male and you see her literally fading away into the arms of chads and even normies. And there's nothing you can do. Nothing you can really offer her. You have nothing that would allow you to truly outcompete normies and chads as a low value man. No good looks, no confidence, no status. Only the strong survive. It's over. And it's brutal my friends.

Sometimes I feel like I can't take this anymore. Infatuation as a form of attachment leads to suffering if there is no reciprocation. Can hardly cope with this emotional anguish.

When it comes to a relationship... Just as much if not more stress, anxiety, worry and fighting. (most of the time)

Maybe I need to maxx out my celibacy to such an extent that I abstain from any sexual thoughts all together as best as possible as @Broken&Ruined advised me. Focus on other pursuits in life. But at the same time I may want to persevere for the sake of a faint burning hope of landing myself a GF. May be my last chance. This chance is very slim, so it's hard to see the point. I don't know what to do anymore. I'm exhausted my friends.
There is nothing to pursuit for people like us
 
Based Vampire

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There is nothing to pursuit for people like us
In all truthfullness, yeah you're right. I need to control my passions to not get into these infatuation situations. Afer years of loneliness and lack of female attention it's hard af. If I see clear signs that a woman is feeling me, I will make my move (even if it turns out I misread it and I'll fail miserably). Otherwise there's no point chasing pussey
 
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