Discussion Is our existence the consequence of persistent bad luck?

[iDONTwannaBeME]

Are hikikomori the result of incredibly bad luck?

Could our lives have turned out completely differently if only a few simple things had gone our way?

Or is it all our fault?

Perhaps its our genes' fault for making us neurodivergent?

What do you think?

 

[RageSpike]

i rolled a nat 1 when i was in the womb
traits:
orc face, autism, schizophrenia, manlet, weak jaw, unreasonably high natural appetite leading to being overweight

 

[iDONTwannaBeME]

i rolled a nat 1 when i was in the womb
traits:
orc face, autism, schizophrenia, manlet, weak jaw, unreasonably high natural appetite leading to being overweight

Me too, i rolled autism, low motivation, predisposition to being fat, and questioning everything, and some other bad traits

 

[Deleted member 2206]

Genetics do have a role in neurodivergence but they are not the full picture.
I hypothesize that genetics may give an undesirable phenotype or personality trait which leads to near-universal exclusion during early developmental years. If a child only knows cold and callous exclusion then that's all they can output. Neural networks only have a limited pool of training data and once you write to a human brain it's damn near impossible to delete that erroneous training data.

Scientists think that a combination of genetics, environmental pollution, older parental age and exposure to certain chemicals in the womb can cause autism. What I'm saying is that all of these are likely to cause increased mutation - i.e an abberant phenotype or pattern of behaviours that lead to a spiralling positive feedback loop of poor social skills and isolation. This cascade forces certain epigenetic markers to intensify monotropic behaviour as a coping mechanism (If you're socially excluded you need a unique special expertise/interest so that you are worth something to your tribe so you don't get cannibalized). Unfortunately we will never know if this is the case as neurotypicals think identifying as neurodivergent is quirky and given the whole 'diversity and inclusion' thing calling attention to the possible causes or implying that autists are not 'special' but 'traumatized' would be offensive.

The huge elephant in the room now is automation. Rapid technological progress and the pushing of the social workplace puts emphasis on social interaction and makes intense information hoarding obsolete in a world where you can just Google it, bro. This would not have been the case a few decades ago, even, when the 'ultra-slow life strategy' of Autism would've actually paid off because their intense monotropism would've garnered respect, autistics would be an authority figure with immense specialist knowledge like a Priest, Technician, Doctor or Scholar.

 

[iDONTwannaBeME]

Genetics do have a role in neurodivergence but they are not the full picture.
I hypothesize that genetics may give an undesirable phenotype or personality trait which leads to near-universal exclusion during early developmental years. If a child only knows cold and callous exclusion then that's all they can output. Neural networks only have a limited pool of training data and once you write to a human brain it's damn near impossible to delete that erroneous training data.

Scientists think that a combination of genetics, environmental pollution, older parental age and exposure to certain chemicals in the womb can cause autism. What I'm saying is that all of these are likely to cause increased mutation - i.e an abberant phenotype or pattern of behaviours that lead to a spiralling positive feedback loop of poor social skills and isolation. This cascade forces certain epigenetic markers to intensify monotropic behaviour as a coping mechanism (If you're socially excluded you need a unique special expertise/interest so that you are worth something to your tribe so you don't get cannibalized). Unfortunately we will never know if this is the case as neurotypicals think identifying as neurodivergent is quirky and given the whole 'diversity and inclusion' thing calling attention to the possible causes or implying that autists are not 'special' but 'traumatized' would be offensive.

The huge elephant in the room now is automation. Rapid technological progress and the pushing of the social workplace puts emphasis on social interaction and makes intense information hoarding obsolete in a world where you can just Google it, bro. This would not have been the case a few decades ago, even, when the 'ultra-slow life strategy' of Autism would've actually paid off because their intense monotropism would've garnered respect, autistics would be an authority figure with immense specialist knowledge like a Priest, Technician, Doctor or Scholar.

Hikikomoris with no interests are the ultimate aberration. Its just a corpse sitting in its room awaiting death, they dont have any coping mechanism. They face the inherent meaningless universe head on, while neurotypicals are ignorant about this fact. And if somehow they think about it, they will forget it in an instant when their wife shows them affection or they see their offspring grow up into a succesful human.

And i had that thought before, that I wouldve been a completely different person if I was born a mere 100 years ago.

Having no social skills in this hyperconnected world is a death sentence