My gripes with islam

Pirate

Pirate

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Feb 24, 2024
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You know, islam does have alot of bad things going for it, like allowing polygamy, their prophet was a pedophile, mathematical errors in the quran etc etc
But i just accept that, to keep a sense of identiy
the thing that threw me over the edge is i kid you not the names of the prophets

So in the old testament/torah everythings written in hebrew, so the names are more reflections on their character, examples include:
Adam = "red" man since he was formed from the red ground
Noah (or Noach) = "rest" since he brought rest to the earth that god had cursed
Moses = "drawn out" because the Pharaoh’s daughter "drew him out of the water" and he "drew out" the Israelites
Abraham = "exalted father"
David = ""to love"
Jesus = "Yahweh saves"
etc etc etc

Now WTF does etymology have to do with anything?

the TLDR of the quran is that's its not supposed to be an addon to the bible, its supposed to be a straight up rewrite of the entire thing. So you'd think they're would be new fancy arabic names for these guys but nope, just given the exact same hebrew terms, just with arab pronounciation
adam, noah ,david, abraham, daniel Jerimiah etc etc
But the only people who get changed are Abraham, moses, and jesus who become musa and isa and Ibrahim . Seems like somebody wanted to make sure they weren't copying 1:1 by targeting the main dudes in other religions.

Now, you may be calling me a retard since "that's litterally their names brooo" But when you read the quran with the persepective of it being written by a merchant who heard all sorts of biblical stories and decided to copy them down it just becomes far too damning.

Just take surah al baqrah for example, the longest surah in the quran

It's doesn't have a central theme whatsoever, it goes from talking about adam and then calls for the killing of all kufr and how the disbelievers will be punished, to talking about abraham, and then calls for the killing of all kufr and how the disbelievers will be punished and then talking about Moses and this just repeats until the last few verses talks about heaven

My theory is that since Muhammad was a bussiness man, he heard a ton of stories, especially biblical ones and he took bits and pieces from both the torah and the bible and created his own thing, + added a ton of verses calling for the death of kufr and how jihading is cool. Since monotheism obviously makes much more sense then polytheism, a ton of people converted and are willing to die for him and allah, that's how islam spread so fast.

Another piece of evidence i have is that the quran just seems too convient for muhhammad is when he adopted his son Zaid, a verse came around that said you can marry your adopted son's wife. Strange
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Yet allah couldn't be bothered with knowing how polygamy is the enemy of society or fucking a child hurts their reproductive organs and harms the child, Strange.
 
Riddler

Riddler

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Oct 18, 2023
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The Quran reads alot differently from the Bible because it's one guy over the course of a few decades whereas the Bible is compiled by several human authors over the course of centuries

However wrt Arabic and Hebrew it makes sense. Hebrew and Arabic are the same language family. Jesus likely spoke Aramaic. There's actually a theory the Quran is supposed to be read in Syriac which is a dialect of aramiac. If you read that way it comes out differently


Alot of Islam lines up with Arab Christian heresies Muhammad woild have been exposed to at the time

Muhammad was mentored by an arab Christian sage called Bahira

Alot of the weird parts of Islam like Jesus talking as a baby and making clay birds come to life come from the Infancy Gospel of Thomas. A non cononical gospel that depicts Jesus as kind of a spoiled brat using his God powers to torment people. It circulated around Arabia and Muhammad would've been exposed to it. It's nowhere in the regular Bible
 
Pirate

Pirate

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Feb 24, 2024
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Alot of the weird parts of Islam like Jesus talking as a baby and making clay birds come to life come from the Infancy Gospel of Thomas. A non cononical gospel that depicts Jesus as kind of a spoiled brat using his God powers to torment people. It circulated around Arabia and Muhammad would've been exposed to it. It's nowhere in the regular Bible
Just use the worst parts of the bible to make jesus look bad theory
 
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