Discussion Philosophy Megathread

[Based Vampire]

I've wanted to start this thread for a while now. @Lain has made a similar thread in the past but it did not receieve much attention. Maybe this one will. There is a chance that this thread dies or turns into a dumpster fire, but I don't care.

So feel free to discuss anything related to philosophy (metaphysics, ethics, epistemology, whatever) and religion. Feel free to post some relevant quotes or thoughts. I'm positively sure we've got people who are interested in these topics.

Let me open this thread with this quote from Marcus Aurelius' Meditations:

Be not disgusted, nor discouraged, nor dissatisfied, if thou dost not succeed in doing everything according to right principles; but when thou bast failed, return back again, and be content if the greater part of what thou doest is consistent with man's nature, and love this to which thou returnest; and do not return to philosophy as if she were a master, but act like those who have sore eyes and apply a bit of sponge and egg, or as another applies a plaster, or drenching with water. For thus thou wilt not fail to obey reason, and thou wilt repose in it (Book V).

 

[parzurnacs]

I have lots of knowledge regarding philosophy but it comes mostly from youtube videos and wikipedia. When I start reading the actual books I might post in this thread. Bookmarked.

Here's a quote from Thales of Miletus:

There are three attributes for which I am grateful to Fortune: that I was born, first, human and not animal; second, man and not woman; and third, Greek and not barbarian.

 

[Based Vampire]

When I start reading the actual books I might post in this thread.

Any particular books in mind? I've been wanting to read Coplestone's History of Philosophy for a while now. There are some interesting books that deal with presocratic philosophy if you're interested. Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy is a good resource, you can always find a good summary of a particular topic as well as a solid bibliography there

 

[ZZebra786]

im in favor. we should have a poll. don't megathreads have to be pinned?

 

[Based Vampire]

im in favor. we should have a poll. don't megathreads have to be pinned?

I'm too lazy to ask the mods to do this tbh

 

[Fabio]

@『 』 be like

 

[anon1822fourthacc]

Unfortunately I'm too addicted to youtube, watching sitcoms, browsing random sites like neets.net or reddit, and playing games or reading manga. I used to love reading books, but these activities are so dopamine-rich that I'm just too addicted. I can still read light novels by the dozen, but with real books I end up trying to get a summary or skim. Or watch a youtube video. It's stupid and low IQ, but it is what it is.

 

[Based Vampire]

Unfortunately I'm too addicted to youtube, watching sitcoms, browsing random sites like neets.net or youtube, and playing games or reading manga. I used to love reading books, but these activities are so dopamine-rich that I'm just too addicted. I can still read light novels by the dozen, but with real books I end up trying to get a summary or skim. Or watch a youtube video. It's stupid and low IQ, but it is what it is.

there is a lot of this stuff on Youtube. Especially when it comes to philosophy of religion, not just some lectures, but fun debates, interviews, etc.

 

[ZZebra786]

@KARENIN would be posting hitler & Nazi philosophy

 

[KARENIN]

@KARENIN would be posting hitler & Nazi philosophy

 

[parzurnacs]

Any particular books in mind?

Warning: Nobody should take my opinion too seriously bc im a lazy mf that hasnt actually read that much books.

Two weeks ago I started reading Diogenes Laertius' Lives and Opinions of Eminent Philosophers, although im a lazy mf so i have only read 100 pages rn. Even though I have lots of books that I haven't read yet, I have an idea of the subjects they treat because I've read lots of summaries about these books (again, I haven't read the books bc im lazy but I have somewhat of a formed opinion)

Here are some philosophers I like/recommend from what I know:

Socrates (in Plato's books)
Plato
Aristotle
Middle Age christian theologists
Machiavelly
Descartes
Thomas Hobbes
Spinoza
David Hume
Jeremy Bentham
Kant
Schopenhauer
Philipp Mainländer
Stuart Mill
Otto Weinigner
Miguel de Unamuno
Karl Schmitt
Gustavo Bueno (this one is recent and unknown to most people but he's an iq gigamogger)
I'm sure I have missed someone here but idc

Here the ones I personally don't agree mostly but I would still read because they say interesting things/their books are historically relevant

Stoics
John Locke
Voltaire
Rousseau
Montesquieu
Hegel, Heidegger, and all those faggot post-modernist philosophers until our days that only say stupid nonsense
Nietzsche
Camus
Ortega y Gasset

There's also philosophers that talk about math, but rn I'm too stupid for that shit

I'm sure there are users that know 100x times more than me, this is just my point of view tbh

Edit: I forgot Adolf Hitler

 

[ZZebra786]

I always liked diogenes. just trolled tf out of irl peps.

 

[parzurnacs]

I always liked diogenes. just trolled tf out of irl peps.

 

[Looksmax Refugee]

do you think a nuke will be dropped within 100 years?

 

[KARENIN]

do you think a nuke will be dropped within 100 years?

Yes. The colony of kikes near Lebanon will Samson the whole planet when it is apparent the Arabs are on the verge of defeating them. I think that's a large part of the reason why the elites send goys to die in Middle Eastern wars.

 

[Incellectual_Anon]

@『 』 be like

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Looks like the guy speaking about "Autism".

 

[KaiserWilhelmll]

Warning: Nobody should take my opinion too seriously bc im a lazy mf that hasnt actually read that much books.

Two weeks ago I started reading Diogenes Laertius' Lives and Opinions of Eminent Philosophers, although im a lazy mf so i have only read 100 pages rn. Even though I have lots of books that I haven't read yet, I have an idea of the subjects they treat because I've read lots of summaries about these books (again, I haven't read the books bc im lazy but I have somewhat of a formed opinion)

Here are some philosophers I like/recommend from what I know:

Socrates (in Plato's books)
Plato
Aristotle
Middle Age christian theologists
Machiavelly
Descartes
Thomas Hobbes
Spinoza
David Hume
Jeremy Bentham
Kant
Schopenhauer
Philipp Mainländer
Stuart Mill
Otto Weinigner
Miguel de Unamuno
Karl Schmitt
Gustavo Bueno (this one is recent and unknown to most people but he's an iq gigamogger)
I'm sure I have missed someone here but idc

Here the ones I personally don't agree mostly but I would still read because they say interesting things/their books are historically relevant

Stoics
John Locke
Voltaire
Rousseau
Montesquieu
Hegel, Heidegger, and all those faggot post-modernist philosophers until our days that only say stupid nonsense
Nietzsche
Camus
Ortega y Gasset

There's also philosophers that talk about math, but rn I'm too stupid for that shit

I'm sure there are users that know 100x times more than me, this is just my point of view tbh

Edit: I forgot Adolf Hitler

>Hegel
>postmodernist

What did ((they)) mean by this

 

[parzurnacs]

>Hegel
>postmodernist

What did ((they)) mean by this

Oh come on. All postmodernists philosophers are rooted in his shitty speculative and excessively verbose nonsense philosophy. From this nigga also the psychoanalists come

Although we might aswell consider most psychologists philosophers, because most of it doesn't have much scientifical methodology

 

[KaiserWilhelmll]

Oh come on. All postmodernists philosophers are rooted in his shitty speculative and excessively verbose nonsense philosophy. From this nigga also the psychoanalists come

Although we might aswell consider most psychologists philosophers, because most of it doesn't have much scientifical methodology

Hegel is the opposite of post modernist

 

[parzurnacs]

Hegel is the opposite of post modernist

I will come back to this comment someday in the future, I want to shit on that nigga as much as possible and I want to do it well

 

[parzurnacs]

Hegel is the opposite of post modernist

I understand that you say he isnt a post-modernist, he really isn't. But all of that philosophy is rooted in him.

 

[inel]

philosophy is cope, niggas be losers in dead end jobs with no pussy reading books on why you should be happy

 

[KaiserWilhelmll]

I understand that you say he isnt a post-modernist, he really isn't. But all of that philosophy is rooted in him.

Postmodernism is a reaction against Hegel and other Structuralists

 

[クーロ]

Book on Zera Yacob and Walda Heywat; two agnostic philosophers from Ethiopia

Books of Zara Yacob (Zera Yaqob) and Walda Heywat - Anna’s Archive

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www.annas-archive.org

 

[Moondust]

I have lots of knowledge regarding philosophy but it comes mostly from youtube videos and wikipedia. When I start reading the actual books I might post in this thread. Bookmarked.

Here's a quote from Thales of Miletus:

"Man and not woman" lol

 

[Moondust]

Book on Zera Yacob and Walda Heywat; two agnostic philosophers from Ethiopia

Books of Zara Yacob (Zera Yaqob) and Walda Heywat - Anna’s Archive

Zera Yacob, Walda Heywat 0 nexusstc/Books of Zara Yacob (Zera Yaqob) and Walda Heywat/c3022d00b351b71006c0e881d8f618b5.epub

www.annas-archive.org

The philosophy of fried chicken and white booty

 

[Moondust]

philosophy is cope, niggas be losers in dead end jobs with no pussy reading books on why you should be happy

That's more like religion. There's zero mindlessly optimistic philosophy out there, yet a huge strain of pessimistic philosophy like Schopenhauer

I hate when people say philosophy doesn't matter yet are religious. Religion is just a prepackaged and applied life philosophy. Like technology being applied science

 

[クーロ]

The philosophy of fried chicken and white booty

There's zero mindlessly optimistic philosophy out there, yet a huge strain of pessimistic philosophy like Schopenhauer

That's actually why I brought him up. He's (afaik) the only non contemporary African philosopher who's records are preserved and his basic idea is that he believes in God, but not standard religion. He believes that all people are foundationally good, but turn evil due to circumstances. Obviously skimming over a lot but he's generally optimistic. Besides him, most philosophy in Africa is ethnic as in entire groups follow it together rather than being the result of one thinker. The most popular of which is Ubuntu. Here's an article on it: https://www.ttbook.org/interview/i-am-because-we-are-african-philosophy-ubuntu

There's also Akan and Bantu philosophy and they all share a general optimistic concept: "I am because we are". Basically your value as an individual comes from your understanding and aid towards and from those around you. The community is pointless if each individual's contribution is reduced, but individual beliefs are worthless if not shared with a community.

I hate when people say philosophy doesn't matter yet are religious. Religion is just a prepackaged and applied life philosophy. Like technology being applied science

Yeah lmao religion and philosophy are basically the same. People call Daoism and Buddhism a philosophy, but Hinduism as a religion. How come?