Discussion Regarding mental health

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Does anyone feel as if normies or people at large only care about tackling mental health so long as they're small and harmless things? When someone is depressed and starts to harm themselves they get all sorts of comfort and good words, but if that depressed person starts saying nasty shit their health is no longer regarded and they're simply viewed as blobs of evil that need to be exterminated by the prince. The recent popularity of crime shows and documentaries has reminded me of how often normies view the mentally ill as entertainment, subconsciously or not. They view these serial killers and other criminals the way they view a comic book villain: doing bad things to be bad, and any background is just there for lore. It's hilarious to them that someone is mentally weak enough to start hurting others due to their own health, then turn around and talk about how we should pursue fundamental solutions for it on Reddit or wherever. Why does the USA have more serial killers than any other country? It can't be that American societal standards are very high and prioritise independence so much that it creates swathes of bitter lonely people who seek unhealthy coping mechanisms driving them mad no no they're just evil! Micro plastics or something! A serial rapist or murderer is regarded as cool if they're good looking enough. But if that person says some wrongthink it's suddenly not ok and problematic. From what few normies I've spoken to it seems to go like this: "no one person can solve the fundamental societal issues that create these individuals, but we can punish those individuals for wrong doing so that they're rehabilitated in prison or elsewhere and don't commit such things again. We can solve the issues that are immediately visible through nice words and medication, but fundamental problems that arise from birth are far more complicated and out of our hands, the best case scenario is to remove them from society to avoid immediate harm". This I find reasonable, no one person is responsible for society at large, I just find it hypocritical that a lot of people who share these sentiments are also the type to laugh and point at those with mental illnesses they don't understand or say things like "your illness isn't an excuse to be an asshole". I don't know I'm probably just rambling. What are your thoughts on this?
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[incelkingkong]

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[Brother Wagecuck]

reminds me of this quote by manson that I like:


you need to be able to truely listen and have true empathy, which is not something everyone has.

 

[fat]

Does anyone feel as if normies or people at large only care about tackling mental health so long as they're small and harmless things?

yeah

When someone is depressed and starts to harm themselves they get all sorts of comfort and good words, but if that depressed person starts saying nasty shit their health is no longer regarded and they're simply viewed as blobs of evil that need to be exterminated by the prince.

the worst part is being mentally ill is that everyone expects you to act like you don't have one. they essentially want to be the uwu inoffensive depressed person who they can control and ignore

he recent popularity of crime shows and documentaries has reminded me of how often normies view the mentally ill as entertainment, subconsciously or not.

i felt the same thing, true crime seems to be inherently about neurodivergent people who have issues. it's like a circus full of freaks, except now it's digital and the 'crime' aspect of them makes it socially acceptable to belittle them

They view these serial killers and other criminals the way they view a comic book villain: doing bad things to be bad, and any background is just there for lore

its so fucking cringe how normies see everything in binary; good and evil. i dont think anyone is born evil, we're only products of our environments, any person who does bad things is compelled to do so because society allows it, indirectly or not.

It's hilarious to them that someone is mentally weak enough to start hurting others due to their own health, then turn around and talk about how we should pursue fundamental solutions for it on Reddit or wherever. Why does the USA have more serial killers than any other country? It can't be that American societal standards are very high and prioritise independence so much that it creates swathes of bitter lonely people who seek unhealthy coping mechanisms driving them mad no no they're just evil! Micro plastics or something!

i often hear this cringey ass line: "i got beaten as a kid and i didnt do anything bad" as if it means jack, it's like saying disabled ppl don't need support because some can work jobs and stuff

A serial rapist or murderer is regarded as cool if they're good looking enough

yuh the treatment of ugly vs attractive criminals is insane. remember that perry school crap? everyone just attacked his looks, nobody was interested in anything else. but when an attractive person does a crime, they're given a lot more sympathetic reactions and seem to be impressed rather than disgusted. i find their reaction to lanza funny, he's just a dorky kid but manages to haunt normies with his eyes despite being a dead aspie for over a decade JFL.

"no one person can solve the fundamental societal issues that create these individuals, but we can punish those individuals for wrong doing so that they're rehabilitated in prison or elsewhere and don't commit such things again. We can solve the issues that are immediately visible through nice words and medication, but fundamental problems that arise from birth are far more complicated and out of our hands, the best case scenario is to remove them from society to avoid immediate harm".

this is why mental illness needs to be politicized. our environment shapes it all, if your genes makes you depressed then a good society will actually help you. and if you're not depressed a good society won't make you depressed. RN they just stuff you full of pills and diagnose you with Not-Normal-Disordewr

This I find reasonable, no one person is responsible for society at large, I just find it hypocritical that a lot of people who share these sentiments are also the type to laugh and point at those with mental illnesses they don't understand or say things like "your illness isn't an excuse to be an asshole". I don't know I'm probably just rambling. What are your thoughts on this?

i hate the idea that any amount of empathy is seen as an excuse. i dont think people want to face the reality that free will doesn't really exist and every prisoner / person suffering is essentially a victim of a world they had no part in

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[クーロ]

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[Zangano1]

Mental health is the latest normie meme, they all think they have mental health issues but none of them suffers like me

 

[クーロ]

Mental health is the latest normie meme, they all think they have mental health issues but none of them suffers like me

I think that's a result of social platforms (and media like movies/music/games, indirectly influenced by those social platforms) romanticise it too much despite the common rhetoric of trying not to. Take 13 Reasons Why for example. In the beginning it was just another high school drama with suicidal themes, but it depicted suicide in a way that was realistic and it resonated with people. This success didn't encourage the writers to share awareness, it encouraged them to make a bunch of new nonsense seasons and [content] as a flair when none of the issues they present are as realistic or important as their initial depiction of suicide. It went from "there is no need to harm yourself so greatly" to "dude! She's just like me! I'm going to overanalyze my life to point out 13 arbitray points as a cause for my suicide!". It's not entirely the writers' fault, because the popularity of the show made it spread like wildfire on social platforms, and those platforms promote engagement over substance, so only people cracking jokes and making inappropriate references bubbled up to the top, and naïve young people looking for a community to belong to picked it up at face value. It's a very scary sentiment to how much media can influence people's perceptions of practically everything. This same case happens with autism, ADHD, and the like. Some show depicts it well, gets a following, then gets misinterpreted to oblivion because a bunch of teenagers want to relate, not learn.

 

[ImranKhan]

depression is a fake disease. just a fancy word for sadness

 

[クーロ]

depression is a fake disease. just a fancy word for sadness

There is a difference between depression as a mood and depression as a clinical condition. What you're mentioning is a normal reaction, clinical depression is basically a state of complete despair. You will feel the same way no matter what you do or how old you get; you are always fucked.

 

[ImranKhan]

There is a difference between depression as a mood and depression as a clinical condition. What you're mentioning is a normal reaction, clinical depression is basically a state of complete despair. You will feel the same way no matter what you do or how old you get; you are always fucked.

depression is a fake disease. just a fancy word for sadness