the neet/hikikomori subculture amidst a sea of normie infested and dead subcultures

seji

seji

NEET
Nov 7, 2021
483
I was reading about subcultures and it was said that nowadays subcultures are mostly just fashion statements or trends that are mostly filled with normies and consumerism to where as original subcultures were described with counterculture sentiment (like punk or goth), they were identity statements that separated you from the herd. They say true countercultures are dead but I think amongst the last remaining true countercultures would be the neet/hikikomori subculture.

google describes subculture as: "A subculture is a group of people within a cultural society that differentiates itself from the conservative and standard values to which it belongs, often maintaining some of its founding principles. Subcultures develop their own norms and values regarding cultural, political, and sexual matters."

Neets and hikis differentiate themselves by their removal of self from work and society in general, and have several cultural significance especially in asia as can be seen in many asian forms of media. Here in the west you can see neet and hiki culture and vibes on 4chan or here for example and even sizable subreddits have arose surrounding the topic.

I also read only the best and truest subcultures survive by gatekeeping and it got me thinking that most people wouldnt or cant just go neet and hiki making true examples of neet and hikidom rare. You most usually need to be able to get bux or survive off parents, and the cultures revolving around neetdom and hikikomoridom both comical and serious are not for the faint of heart, or for the normie's usual appetite of socializing, working, etc

Neet cartoon
 
neetastrea

neetastrea

gothcel
Apr 15, 2024
313
i think i read some of the same articles. i think it’s a lot harder to be a neet poser since it’s such an extreme. i’m a goth and it doesn’t take much for people to infest the scene after buying a tube of eyeliner. it’s a costume to posers and not a permanent feature in their lifes. to post as a neet you would have to fabricate a lot of details in your life, most people spend a lot of time on work or school. actually going neet for a trend isn’t really possible as it’s permanent educationally and financially and dare i say it can be an unenjoyable experience.
 
constantfailure7

constantfailure7

oldcel married neet
Apr 21, 2024
45
Subcultures are pretty much dead. I was in high school in the late 2000s and early 2010s. That was the very end of it. Now it all mostly seems like just a cheap disposable aesthetic dominated by women. Mostly to separate desperate men from their money as they build a pointless following + get validation and attention from simps
The internet mostly killed subcultures. And now that rap is by far the predominant music genre. That was probably the biggest shift. The music and old bands that are dead or old people now were the driving force and all that is gone. Modern society fucking sucks and I don't relate to it at all
 
akame

akame

Kunikuzushi
Feb 21, 2024
1,208
im to low IQ for this stuff but it sounds reasonable
 
クーロ

クーロ

عثمان دان فوديو الثاني
Jan 23, 2024
4,492
I think this is a byproduct of the internet and it's popularity simultaneously making it easier for subcultures to organise themselves into coherent entities and for outsiders to pry into those communities and plant seeds of division. Even with gatekeeping people against the herd primarily using the internet as a form of organisation means it's easier for people to point out the ills of those subcultures and share it (in secret or not) among their communities to sow doubt. In the past these subcultures stayed underground because mass information was not yet common so you could only really be ostracised if it includes public displays such as doing drugs in the open or dressing in certain ways. These days everyone across the world is connected with everyone else 24/7 so gatekeeping is very difficult and anyone can quickly gather enough information to LARP
 
neetastrea

neetastrea

gothcel
Apr 15, 2024
313
Subcultures are pretty much dead. I was in high school in the late 2000s and early 2010s. That was the very end of it. Now it all mostly seems like just a cheap disposable aesthetic dominated by women. Mostly to separate desperate men from their money as they build a pointless following + get validation and attention from simps
The internet mostly killed subcultures. And now that rap is by far the predominant music genre. That was probably the biggest shift. The music and old bands that are dead or old people now were the driving force and all that is gone. Modern society fucking sucks and I don't relate to it at all
i think subcultures have been pushed to be more obscure, but they are not dead. i’m a goth and i know the goth scene still exists, especially online. i also know metalheads and punks, and those scenes seem very alive locally
 
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