Discussion Why forums go to shit and the founder effect

Riddler

Riddler

NEET
Oct 18, 2023
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Rather than just complain about why is or org is shit mindlessly, here are my thoughts on why they're shit

In population genetics, the founders effect describes how breakaway groups tend to move towards reduced genetic diversity

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The same thing tends to happen to internet groups like is. We break off from the mainstream due to unorthodox views like the blackpill. And there usually is alot of interesting debate and discussion at first but over time, the community sees reduced diversity and became 99% the same aspies saying the same shit

The only way to keep things interesting is to periodically inject new ideas and people into the community. I believe here tends to have this and this why there isn't a de facto status quo

With is and org they are small groups. One or two people can't rock the boat but here, people like neetgod karenin or johan can make their mark

Look at any 4chan board or forum that sucks usually reduced diversity is to blame
 
frightfulcel

frightfulcel

Such deceit, such mischief hsssssk
Sep 9, 2022
954
I think an elephant in the room is that the moderation bans massive amounts of users to the point that nobody feels like contributing anything anymore. Its why on .is and .org nobody goes out of their way to create good content, I really wonder where those people are these days.
 
Polar-Z

Polar-Z

so tiresome
Aug 3, 2023
2,515
This doesn't make sense to me, the idea for these communities is to create introspective echo chambers where the echo/idea is examined through collective effort. The core motive is to understand these ideas first and challenge them second. Can't do that in a pre-hostile environment where said diversity of opinion leads to exclusion. it deviates the core topic of the discussion if not the whole idea for the community.

Second, not all ideas and added individuals offer the same value, if they offer any at all. Even in this place you claim to be diversely challenging there are rules and obvious hierarchy for most engaged users and for Gatekeeping against fags. The women. the ("low IQ". Unfamiliars. Memers etc). done by micro aggressive behaviour. Shunning. Mocking. Ignoring them. And Much needed to keep intentionally undesirable if not outright harmful opinions out of the picture.

Look at any 4chan board or forum that sucks usually reduced diversity is to blame
Then look at subReddit, the reflection to these boards is innumerable. They are not lacking in diversity or quantity. But quality and effort. R9k best days started as a doom and gloom haven for the losers then woman started to join. Then normies then trannies then the board turned to a cesspool for anyone wishing to take a dump with their new "ideas".
 
RabidRosaries

RabidRosaries

Khat leaves underground smuggling
Aug 27, 2023
1,058
Let in foids who pass an IQ test or Turing test @Master
 
Pirate

Pirate

NEET
Feb 24, 2024
4,411
This doesn't make sense to me, the idea for these communities is to create introspective echo chambers where the echo/idea is examined through collective effort. The core motive is to understand these ideas first and challenge them second. Can't do that in a pre-hostile environment where said diversity of opinion leads to exclusion. it deviates the core topic of the discussion if not the whole idea for the community.

Second, not all ideas and added individuals offer the same value, if they offer any at all. Even in this place you claim to be diversely challenging there are rules and obvious hierarchy for most engaged users and for Gatekeeping against fags. The women. the ("low IQ". Unfamiliars. Memers etc). done by micro aggressive behaviour. Shunning. Mocking. Ignoring them. And Much needed to keep intentionally undesirable if not outright harmful opinions out of the picture.


Then look at subReddit, the reflection to these boards is innumerable. They are not lacking in diversity or quantity. But quality and effort. R9k best days started as a doom and gloom haven for the losers then woman started to join. Then normies then trannies then the board turned to a cesspool for anyone wishing to take a dump with their new "ideas".
Women and fags deadass ruin online communites you are underestimating their power
 
Riddler

Riddler

NEET
Oct 18, 2023
4,541
Let in foids who pass an IQ test or Turing test @Master
Any woman who would make a good user is going to respect the forum culture and need for men's spaces enough to larp and not disrupt

Anyone who wants the rule changed, wouldn't make a good user

Another rule was almost changed on my behalf in the same vein and I didn't want it to, for similar reasons
 
Pirate

Pirate

NEET
Feb 24, 2024
4,411
If they larp You wouldn't be able to tell who's who anyways. And it's not like the rules will do shit at this point.

May as well try and integrate them properly.
No matter how much they LARP their low emotional IQ will show. Just get into an argument with one, doesn't matter what's it about. 100% guarenteeded they will do the following:
1) Try to proxy reject you, since she cant' do that here ("No women wants you anyways! Your gay! Ok incel")
2) Insist she's a guy constantly
 
Polar-Z

Polar-Z

so tiresome
Aug 3, 2023
2,515
No matter how much they LARP their low emotional IQ will show. Just get into an argument with one, doesn't matter what's it about. 100% guarenteeded they will do the following:
1) Try to proxy reject you, since she cant' do that here ("No women wants you anyways! Your gay! Ok incel")
2) Insist she's a guy constantly
Ngl I'm having trouble following you. You're saying any argument I have with a woman will devolve into me trying to romance her for her to reject for obvious reasons?. But I didn't argue for the sake of turning this place into a dating website.
 
Pirate

Pirate

NEET
Feb 24, 2024
4,411
Ngl I'm having trouble following you. You're saying any argument I have with a woman will devolve into me trying to romance her for her to reject for obvious reasons?. But I didn't argue for the sake of turning this place into a dating website.
That's what im getting at here, sex is the only unit of value they understand so of course not having it would be the biggest insult to them
 
Polar-Z

Polar-Z

so tiresome
Aug 3, 2023
2,515
That's what im getting at here, sex is the only unit of value they understand so of course not having it would be the biggest insult to them
That'll be a "them problem". You deal with it the same way you deal with attention whores. You ignore them until they get bored and leave or they lose their minds and do some retarded shit that'll eventually get them banned. The real problem lies with you. If you can't control yourself around them without turning into a simp then what differentiate you from the average redditor.
 
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