Discussion Why its important to know exactly who you are

frightfulcel

frightfulcel

pyramidcel
Sep 9, 2022
1,391
You are perfect the way you are: All animals have a "range" in which they exist. A dog is no better than a human, or worse for that matter. Its just different. The issue with civilizaiton is that high and lower iq people co-exist in the same enviroment which wouldn't have been a thing in hunter gatherer socities given people who were different would be outcasted. When a tribe defeats another, they kill all the men. So social isolation wouldn't exist in tribal socities because you would be surrounded by people just like you. The issue with this society is that people like us NEETs don't match with the general population, and hence we have to retreat from society somewhat. If all of society were NEET types with iq's around 115-120+, then we would fit in fine.

If someone were to give a Chimpanzee a gun, and that Chimpanzee started shooting Chimps and other people who would you blame? Even though its the Chimpanzee doing it, nobody in their right mind would blame the Chimpanzee. Everyone would point the blame at the person who gave it the gun in the first place. Without "alien technology" the Chimpanzee could have never have come up with that gun in the first place. The damage its doing is amplified by the gun.

When women for example use Tinder and exclude huge swarths of men from the dating market, its not their fault given they could never come up with that technology in the first place. The people to blame are nerd types who gave them that technology in the first place. Women can't understand the implications of that technology given they couldn't come up with it in the first place, same way a chimp couldn't understand the implications of the gun. What I'm getting at is, every creature is no better or worse than any other, its just different. If you leave them in their natural enviroment, their negative effects won't spill over into the rest of existence. Its only when you mix people with different iq's etc. that you get "conflict" as such.

People who succeed do things naturally: I lol at people who think college is about being an individual and working hard. Most people just help eachother in group chats where they all cooprate to get things done. I remember some autistic person said on reddit or something that they were accidently invited to one of these places and they saw all the normies talking among themselves and basically getting through college in a group. Basically, normies are garunteed to get through it due to social connections. The college knows this, but they assume everyone is doing it. If you're struggling at college it means that you likely lack social support. Normies don't drop out of college often due to this social net.

Even the gym is about muscle insertions, frame and what not (durrr) people who are athletic naturally work and and are athletic. They don't plan it, they are just trying to lose energy. If you lack energy and don't want to go to the gym, then don't. The people who are ripped didn't do anything for it.

Analogy: A doctor does a scan of your body and realizes you have cancer and have 6 months to live. In order to spare you any emotional pain the doctor tells you you're fine. You are then happy and leave with a good concious not knowing you have months to live. Then suddenly you are dying. You lived the last 5 months in bliss, however you curse the doctors name because if you knew you were dying of cancer you could have seeked treatments and done things you always wanted to do. Maybe even settle some things before you die. Because your model of reality didn't match up with your circumstances, you ultimatly suffered even if living a lie gave you some "bliss".

My personal life: When I was 13 this autistic girl had a crush on me. She kept looking at me and trying to interact with me. She wasn't bad looking, just really autistic. Because people had lied to me about my looks, saying I was good looking and I would get lots of girls when I was older etc. I thought I could do better than the autistic girl in a narcassistic way. I rejected her in an egoic way. Then I went after the giga Stacy in my school. That "relationship" if you would call it that ended extremely badly. I was just her play thing. After that I developed extreme bloat and my recessed features were no longer cute, just subhuman. Even though I believe longterm the autistic girl and I wouldn't have worked out, we could have been boyfriend/girlfriend in a young person way, or friends. Because I viewed myself better looking than I was I'm an incel to this day. If I had a better model of myself and reality the abuse with the giga Stacy would have never of happened.
I also tried to ascend and it did more damage than good. If I had just tried to save up for a bimax then I could have ascended through that way jfl.

@Abhorrence1 - I hope this is not too cringe, but its just me sperging out my thoughts. Idk if it will be of use but yes
 
Mulattocel

Mulattocel

PPS
Feb 13, 2024
6,743
You are perfect the way you are: All animals have a "range" in which they exist. A dog is no better than a human, or worse for that matter. Its just different. The issue with civilizaiton is that high and lower iq people co-exist in the same enviroment which wouldn't have been a thing in hunter gatherer socities given people who were different would be outcasted. When a tribe defeats another, they kill all the men. So social isolation wouldn't exist in tribal socities because you would be surrounded by people just like you. The issue with this society is that people like us NEETs don't match with the general population, and hence we have to retreat from society somewhat. If all of society were NEET types with iq's around 115-120+, then we would fit in fine.

If someone were to give a Chimpanzee a gun, and that Chimpanzee started shooting Chimps and other people who would you blame? Even though its the Chimpanzee doing it, nobody in their right mind would blame the Chimpanzee. Everyone would point the blame at the person who gave it the gun in the first place. Without "alien technology" the Chimpanzee could have never have come up with that gun in the first place. The damage its doing is amplified by the gun.

When women for example use Tinder and exclude huge swarths of men from the dating market, its not their fault given they could never come up with that technology in the first place. The people to blame are nerd types who gave them that technology in the first place. Women can't understand the implications of that technology given they couldn't come up with it in the first place, same way a chimp couldn't understand the implications of the gun. What I'm getting at is, every creature is no better or worse than any other, its just different. If you leave them in their natural enviroment, their negative effects won't spill over into the rest of existence. Its only when you mix people with different iq's etc. that you get "conflict" as such.

People who succeed do things naturally: I lol at people who think college is about being an individual and working hard. Most people just help eachother in group chats where they all cooprate to get things done. I remember some autistic person said on reddit or something that they were accidently invited to one of these places and they saw all the normies talking among themselves and basically getting through college in a group. Basically, normies are garunteed to get through it due to social connections. The college knows this, but they assume everyone is doing it. If you're struggling at college it means that you likely lack social support. Normies don't drop out of college often due to this social net.

Even the gym is about muscle insertions, frame and what not (durrr) people who are athletic naturally work and and are athletic. They don't plan it, they are just trying to lose energy. If you lack energy and don't want to go to the gym, then don't. The people who are ripped didn't do anything for it.

Analogy: A doctor does a scan of your body and realizes you have cancer and have 6 months to live. In order to spare you any emotional pain the doctor tells you you're fine. You are then happy and leave with a good concious not knowing you have months to live. Then suddenly you are dying. You lived the last 5 months in bliss, however you curse the doctors name because if you knew you were dying of cancer you could have seeked treatments and done things you always wanted to do. Maybe even settle some things before you die. Because your model of reality didn't match up with your circumstances, you ultimatly suffered even if living a lie gave you some "bliss".

My personal life: When I was 13 this autistic girl had a crush on me. She kept looking at me and trying to interact with me. She wasn't bad looking, just really autistic. Because people had lied to me about my looks, saying I was good looking and I would get lots of girls when I was older etc. I thought I could do better than the autistic girl in a narcassistic way. I rejected her in an egoic way. Then I went after the giga Stacy in my school. That "relationship" if you would call it that ended extremely badly. I was just her play thing. After that I developed extreme bloat and my recessed features were no longer cute, just subhuman. Even though I believe longterm the autistic girl and I wouldn't have worked out, we could have been boyfriend/girlfriend in a young person way, or friends. Because I viewed myself better looking than I was I'm an incel to this day. If I had a better model of myself and reality the abuse with the giga Stacy would have never of happened.
I also tried to ascend and it did more damage than good. If I had just tried to save up for a bimax then I could have ascended through that way jfl.

@Abhorrence1 - I hope this is not too cringe, but its just me sperging out my thoughts. Idk if it will be of use but yes
Cringemaxxed muh 'im an intelectual" ass title but you saved it with actual coherent sentences and paragraphs
 
Abhorrence

Abhorrence

NEET
Dec 24, 2023
3,348
You are perfect the way you are: All animals have a "range" in which they exist. A dog is no better than a human, or worse for that matter. Its just different. The issue with civilizaiton is that high and lower iq people co-exist in the same enviroment which wouldn't have been a thing in hunter gatherer socities given people who were different would be outcasted. When a tribe defeats another, they kill all the men. So social isolation wouldn't exist in tribal socities because you would be surrounded by people just like you. The issue with this society is that people like us NEETs don't match with the general population, and hence we have to retreat from society somewhat. If all of society were NEET types with iq's around 115-120+, then we would fit in fine.

If someone were to give a Chimpanzee a gun, and that Chimpanzee started shooting Chimps and other people who would you blame? Even though its the Chimpanzee doing it, nobody in their right mind would blame the Chimpanzee. Everyone would point the blame at the person who gave it the gun in the first place. Without "alien technology" the Chimpanzee could have never have come up with that gun in the first place. The damage its doing is amplified by the gun.

When women for example use Tinder and exclude huge swarths of men from the dating market, its not their fault given they could never come up with that technology in the first place. The people to blame are nerd types who gave them that technology in the first place. Women can't understand the implications of that technology given they couldn't come up with it in the first place, same way a chimp couldn't understand the implications of the gun. What I'm getting at is, every creature is no better or worse than any other, its just different. If you leave them in their natural enviroment, their negative effects won't spill over into the rest of existence. Its only when you mix people with different iq's etc. that you get "conflict" as such.

People who succeed do things naturally: I lol at people who think college is about being an individual and working hard. Most people just help eachother in group chats where they all cooprate to get things done. I remember some autistic person said on reddit or something that they were accidently invited to one of these places and they saw all the normies talking among themselves and basically getting through college in a group. Basically, normies are garunteed to get through it due to social connections. The college knows this, but they assume everyone is doing it. If you're struggling at college it means that you likely lack social support. Normies don't drop out of college often due to this social net.

Even the gym is about muscle insertions, frame and what not (durrr) people who are athletic naturally work and and are athletic. They don't plan it, they are just trying to lose energy. If you lack energy and don't want to go to the gym, then don't. The people who are ripped didn't do anything for it.

Analogy: A doctor does a scan of your body and realizes you have cancer and have 6 months to live. In order to spare you any emotional pain the doctor tells you you're fine. You are then happy and leave with a good concious not knowing you have months to live. Then suddenly you are dying. You lived the last 5 months in bliss, however you curse the doctors name because if you knew you were dying of cancer you could have seeked treatments and done things you always wanted to do. Maybe even settle some things before you die. Because your model of reality didn't match up with your circumstances, you ultimatly suffered even if living a lie gave you some "bliss".

My personal life: When I was 13 this autistic girl had a crush on me. She kept looking at me and trying to interact with me. She wasn't bad looking, just really autistic. Because people had lied to me about my looks, saying I was good looking and I would get lots of girls when I was older etc. I thought I could do better than the autistic girl in a narcassistic way. I rejected her in an egoic way. Then I went after the giga Stacy in my school. That "relationship" if you would call it that ended extremely badly. I was just her play thing. After that I developed extreme bloat and my recessed features were no longer cute, just subhuman. Even though I believe longterm the autistic girl and I wouldn't have worked out, we could have been boyfriend/girlfriend in a young person way, or friends. Because I viewed myself better looking than I was I'm an incel to this day. If I had a better model of myself and reality the abuse with the giga Stacy would have never of happened.
I also tried to ascend and it did more damage than good. If I had just tried to save up for a bimax then I could have ascended through that way jfl.

@Abhorrence1 - I hope this is not too cringe, but its just me sperging out my thoughts. Idk if it will be of use but yes
Great thread man


let me bump it
 
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lünin7

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May 27, 2023
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Individualism is a cope not in college but all of educational programming. I realized all the work I did was literally by myself and lack of paying attention during classes
 
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